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Tenuta di Monaciano

Farm stay in Castelnuovo Berardenga with 2 outdoor pools and restaurant
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Deluxe Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View | Outdoor dining
Free toiletries, bidet, towels
2 outdoor pools, pool loungers
Front of property - evening/night
Fridge, microwave, stovetop, cookware/dishes/utensils

Reviews

8.6 out of 10

Excellent

Popular amenities

  • Pool
  • Pet-friendly
  • Laundry
  • Housekeeping
  • Kitchen
  • Free WiFi

Explore the area

Map
Ponte a Bozzone, Castelnuovo Berardenga, SI, 53010
  • Santa Maria alle Scotte Polyclinic
    8 min drive
  • Siena Stadium
    9 min drive
  • Basilica di San Domenico
    11 min drive
  • Siena (SAY-Ampugnano)
    46 min drive

Room options

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Deluxe Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Deluxe Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
2 bedrooms
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 110 sq m
  • Vineyard view
  • Sleeps 5
  • 1 Double Bed and 3 Single Beds

View all photos for Classic Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Desk, cots/infant beds, rollaway beds, free WiFi

Classic Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
2 bedrooms
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 80 sq m
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 Double Bed and 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Desk, cots/infant beds, rollaway beds, free WiFi

Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
2 bedrooms
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 70 sq m
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 Double Bed and 1 Single Bed

View all photos for Apartment, 3 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Apartment, 3 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Apartment, 3 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
3 bedrooms
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 120 sq m
  • Vineyard view
  • Sleeps 5
  • 1 Double Bed and 3 Single Beds

View all photos for Classic Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Desk, cots/infant beds, rollaway beds, free WiFi

Classic Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
2 bedrooms
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 80 sq m
  • Vineyard view
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 Double Bed and 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Desk, cots/infant beds, rollaway beds, free WiFi

Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
2 bedrooms
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 70.0 sq m
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 Double Bed and 1 Single Bed

View all photos for Superior Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Desk, cots/infant beds, rollaway beds, free WiFi

Superior Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
2 bedrooms
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 100 sq m
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 Double Bed and 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Superior Apartment, 4 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Superior Apartment, 4 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Superior Apartment, 4 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Vineyard View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
4 bedrooms
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 140.0 sq m
  • Vineyard view
  • Sleeps 8
  • 4 Double Beds

View all photos for Superior Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Desk, cots/infant beds, rollaway beds, free WiFi

Superior Apartment, 2 Bedrooms, Kitchenette, Garden View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
2 bedrooms
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 110 sq m
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 Double Bed and 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Apartment, 1 Bedroom, Kitchenette, Garden View

Desk, cots/infant beds, rollaway beds, free WiFi

Apartment, 1 Bedroom, Kitchenette, Garden View

Highlights

Heating
Kitchenette
Fridge
Flat-screen TV
Separate bedroom
Ceiling fan
Bidet
Private bathroom
  • 50 sq m
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 Double Bed

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About the area

Castelnuovo Berardenga

At Tenuta di Monaciano you'll be 3.7 km (2.3 mi) from Terra di Seta and 4.7 km (2.9 mi) from Leonetto Comparini Anatomy Museum. Highlights at this farm house include 2 outdoor swimming pools, and in-room kitchenettes and free WiFi. .Enjoy the pool loungers along with access to bike hire and a playground. At the farm house's restaurant, you can grab a bite to eat. Added amenities include free Wi-Fi in public areas and laundry facilities. There's also the convenience of free self parking. .Sights within a 10-minute drive of this Castelnuovo Berardenga farm house include Frateria di Padre Eligio and Oratorio di San Bernardino e Museo Diocesano.
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What's nearby

  • Santa Maria alle Scotte Polyclinic - 8 min drive
  • Banca Monte dei Paschi di Siena - 12 min drive
  • Piazza del Campo - 13 min drive
  • University of Siena - 13 min drive
  • Siena Cathedral - 14 min drive

Getting around

  • Siena Station - 17 min drive
  • Peretola Airport (FLR) - 69 min drive

Restaurants

  • ‪Caffetteria Mario - ‬9 min drive
  • ‪Bar Dell'Artigiano - ‬10 min drive
  • ‪Old Wild West - ‬12 min drive
  • ‪Pasticceria Scacciapensieri - ‬8 min drive
  • ‪Mensa San Miniato Ristorante - ‬9 min drive

About this property

Tenuta di Monaciano

Farm stay in Castelnuovo Berardenga with 2 outdoor pools and restaurant
There's a restaurant on site. Public spaces have free WiFi. Tenuta di Monaciano offers its guests 2 outdoor swimming pools. A terrace, barbecue grills, and tour/ticket assistance are also featured at Tenuta di Monaciano. Free self parking is available.
  • 22 guestrooms or units
  • Childcare (surcharge)
  • Poolside lounge chairs
  • Self-service laundry
  • Front desk (limited hours)
  • Tour and ticket information
  • Terrace
  • Garden
  • BBQ grill(s)
  • Outdoor picnic space
  • Dining venue
Tenuta di Monaciano offers 22 accommodations with free toiletries and a ceiling fan. Kitchenettes offer fridges, stovetops and kitchenware and utensils. Bathrooms include baths or showers and bidets.

Guests can surf the web using complimentary wireless Internet access. Flat-screen televisions are featured in guestrooms. Housekeeping is offered on a daily basis and microwaves can be requested. Housekeeping is provided on a limited basis.

Languages

English, French, Italian

Property amenities

Internet

  • Available in all rooms: Free WiFi
  • Available in some public areas: Free WiFi

Parking and transport

  • Free self parking on site

Food and drink

  • A restaurant

Things to do

  • 2 outdoor pools
  • Bicycle rentals
  • Playground

Family friendly

  • 2 outdoor pools
  • Babysitting (surcharge)
  • Cot (surcharge)
  • In-room kitchenette
  • In-room refrigerator
  • Laundry facilities
  • Microwave on request
  • Playground
  • Rollaway/extra bed (surcharge)

Conveniences

  • Laundry facilities
  • Limited-hour front desk

Guest services

  • Housekeeping (daily)
  • Tour and ticket assistance

Outdoors

  • Barbecue grill
  • Garden
  • Picnic area
  • Pool loungers
  • Terrace

Room amenities

Bedroom

  • Bedsheets provided
  • Cot (surcharge)
  • Rollaway/extra bed (surcharge)

Bathroom

  • Bathtub or shower
  • Bidet
  • Free toiletries
  • Private bathroom
  • Towels provided

Entertainment

  • Flat-screen TV

Food and drink

  • Cookware, dishware, and utensils
  • Hob
  • Kitchenette
  • Microwave on request
  • Refrigerator

More

  • Ceiling fan
  • Desk
  • Heating
  • Mobile key entry

Policies

Check-in

Check-in start time: 4:00 PM; check-in end time: 7:00 PM
Late check-in subject to availability
Late check-in fee: EUR 30 for check-in between 7:30 PM and 8:30 PM
Minimum check-in age - 18

Check-out

Check-out before 10:00 AM

Special check-in instructions

The front desk is open daily from 8:30 AM - 7:30 PM
Guests must contact the property in advance for check-in instructions; front desk staffed during limited hours
To make arrangements for check-in please contact the property at least 48 hours before arrival using the information on the booking confirmation
If you are planning to arrive after 4:00 PM please contact the property in advance using the information on the booking confirmation
At check-in, guests must provide a record of full COVID-19 vaccination

Renovations and closures

This property is closed from 9 December 2024 to 1 March 2025 (dates subject to change).

Access methods

Front desk (limited hours)

Pets

  • Pets: EUR 25 per pet, per stay
  • Maximum 1 pets
  • Restrictions apply
  • For more information, you can reach out to the property at the number on the booking confirmation
    • Service animals are exempt from fees.

Children and extra beds

  • Children are welcome.
  • Rollaway/extra beds are available for EUR 30.0 per stay.
  • Cots (infant beds) are available for EUR 15.0 per stay.

Payment types

Important information

Fees

Guests will be asked to pay the following charges at the property:

  • A tax is imposed by the city: EUR 4.00 per person, per night, up to 7 nights. This tax does not apply to children under 14 years of age.
  • A damage deposit of EUR 50 will be collected before check-in.

We've listed all charges provided to us by the property.

Optional extras

The fees and deposits listed below will be charged at the time of service, check-in, or check-out.

  • Pet fee: EUR 25 per pet, per stay
  • Service animals are exempt from fees
  • Late check-in fee: EUR 30 for check-in between 7:30 PM and 8:30 PM
  • Cleaning/housekeeping/linen are available for an additional fee
  • Crib (infant bed) fee: EUR 15.0 per stay
  • Rollaway bed fee: EUR 30.0 per stay

This may not be a comprehensive list. Fees and deposits are subject to change and might not include tax.

You need to know

Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy
Government-issued photo identification and a credit card may be required at check-in for incidental charges
Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed
This property accepts credit cards and cash
Cashless transactions are available
Charges for extra guests may apply and vary according to property policy.
A credit card for incidental charges and government-issued photo identification may be required upon check-in.
Special requests are subject to availability at the time of check-in. Special requests can't be guaranteed and may incur additional charges.
    This property is managed by a professional host. The provision of housing is linked to their trade, business or profession. This property accepts Visa, Mastercard and cash. For guests' safety, the property includes a carbon monoxide detector in all accommodation. Cashless payment methods are available for all transactions and guests can access their rooms with a mobile device. At check-in, guests must provide a record of full COVID-19 vaccination.

Property Registration Number IT052006B5G6ZKR92Y

We should mention

  • All guests (including children) need to be present at check-in to show their government-issued photo ID or passport.
  • On-site cash transactions can't exceed EUR 5000, due to national regulations. For more details, please contact the property using information in the booking confirmation.
  • Registered guests are the only ones allowed to be in guestrooms.
  • To make arrangements to bring your pet, contact the property directly at the number on your booking confirmation (please see the Fees section for related charges).

Property is also known as

Monaciano
Tenuta di Monaciano
Tenuta di Monaciano Apartment
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Tenuta Di Monaciano Hotel
Tenuta di Monaciano Agritourism Castelnuovo Berardenga
Tenuta di Monaciano Agritourism property Castelnuovo Berardenga
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Frequently asked questions

What is the cancellation policy at Tenuta di Monaciano?

Tenuta di Monaciano offers free cancellation on select room rates. Check out the cancellation policy for more info.

Is parking available at Tenuta di Monaciano?

Yep, Tenuta di Monaciano has a free self car park.

Does Tenuta di Monaciano have a pool?

Tenuta di Monaciano has 2 outdoor swimming pools. Grab your bathers and lounge poolside while enjoying on a lounger.

Is Tenuta di Monaciano family-friendly?

You bet! With amenities such as babysitting services and a playground, as well as cots/infant beds in the guestrooms, it's no surprise that Tenuta di Monaciano is a hit with families.

Is there a free airport shuttle available at Tenuta di Monaciano?

No, Tenuta di Monaciano does not offer an airport shuttle service.

Is there a bar or restaurant at Tenuta di Monaciano?

Yep, you can grab a meal at Tenuta di Monaciano's onsite restaurant.

What time are check-in & check-out at Tenuta di Monaciano?

Check-in begins at 4:00 PM. Check-out time is 10:00 AM.

Tenuta di Monaciano Reviews

Reviews

8.6

Excellent

Rating 10 - Excellent. 14 out of 26 reviews" "
Rating 8 - Good. 8 out of 26 reviews" "
Rating 6 - Okay. 2 out of 26 reviews" "
Rating 4 - Poor. 0 out of 26 reviews" "
Rating 2 - Terrible. 2 out of 26 reviews" "

8.8/10

Cleanliness

8.0/10

Staff & service

8.0/10

Amenities

8.6/10

Property conditions & facilities

8.0/10

Eco-friendliness

Reviews

2/10 Terrible

Ilan

Travelled with family
Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Because of what I mentioned I want my money back.
There is a big gap between what appears on the website and the reality, getting to the room is very difficult. (Requires traveling by car on an unpaved road) The living conditions are not comfortable at all. Very small shower. There are no air conditioners in the rooms. Dark and unlit rooms. The kitchen is very small and uncomfortable. A small office refrigerator is not enough for the contents of the whole family (perhaps for two people) cleanliness at a very low level. The hotel's rooms are spread over a huge area. To get to the pool that exists in the hotel, you have to go by car from most of the rooms. Our experience was so negative that after two days we couldn't stay any longer, we really suffered!!! We left the place and went to rent another hotel for the rest of the week. (Of course we did not receive a refund for the large expense even though we asked for it and even a part of it. Which added to the great disappointment. Not a good experience at all and a hotel not recommended for those who want a fun vacation and fair value for money. Stay away!!!
Stayed 7 nights in Jul 2023

8/10 Good

Matjaz

Liked: Cleanliness, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

10/10 Excellent

Kim

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities
Stunning
Beautiful location , helpful staff .
Stayed 8 nights in May 2017

6/10 Okay

Verified traveller

8/10 Good

Matthew, London

Liked: Cleanliness, property conditions & facilities
Tuscan retreat
needs air conditioning!

8/10 Good

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Beautiful Farm Near Siena
We had a great time in this quiet neighborhood outside of Siena. The farm is beautiful and the apartment is great for longer stays since it has plenty of room and a kitchen.

8/10 Good

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Great place to stay.
The hotel staff was amazing and super helpful. I cannot recommend this place more highly. If I ever go back this is where I would stay again hands down. It's peaceful and just located in a stunning area.

8/10 Good

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities
Tenuta di Monaciano - great villa,beautiful views.
The villa was great plenty of room for a family of four.facilities were great ,kids loved the pool.The week we were there the temp reached 40 deg it was very hard to sleep at night.had to ask for a fan as rooms have no a/c,we Got 1 fan so we all had to sleep in one room.very uncomfortable .There are no fly screens on the windows so leaving windows open was out of the question.Apart from this I would recommend the villa for it's location and I hope the owners in stall some ceiling fans at minimum.

10/10 Excellent

Johan

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Stayed 3 nights in Jul 2023

10/10 Excellent

stefano

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Splendida sistemazione !
Ottima esperienza perfetta per famiglie !
Stayed 3 nights in Aug 2021

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
Eine sehr schöne Anlage, das Appartment war sehr schön und richtig Toskanisch eingerichtet! Viel Platz, super Terasse! Griller war anfangs nicht vorhanden doch auf Anfrage wurde uns sofort einer Bereit gestellt. Das Personal war sehr bemüht und sehr nett! Einziges manko ist das wlan, es ist etwas umständlich sich immer über die webseite anzumelden und jeden einzelnen extra zu registriere n! Sonst alles wirklich Top!!
Stayed 6 nights in Jul 2019

10/10 Excellent

Ulrik

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Underbar Toscansk vingård
Fint poolområde, lugnt och skönt med vacker utsikt med en liten promenad så finner man mkt bra resturang, 10min med bil in till Siena. Vill man så är köket välutrustat för matlagning. Väldigt fint ställe.
Stayed 3 nights in Jul 2017

10/10 Excellent

Jorgen

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Perfekt boende utanför Siena
Vacker omgivning, vinrankor och olivträd runtom. Boendet högt upp så utsikten är fantastisk. Ingick också en rundtur på vingården med tillhörande provsmakning.Bra praktistk boende och fin pool som vi fick ha helt för oss själva. Nära in till Siena och även snabbt att ta sig till andra intressanta sevärdheter. Kan absolut rekommendera detta boende.
Stayed 4 nights in Jul 2017

10/10 Excellent

Carla

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Appartamento come visionato dal sito
Bellissimo paesaggio e quiete invidiabile a chi come me abita in una grande città. Esperienza positiva. Personale cortese e professionale. Appartamento perfetto per due persone. Completo di ogni cosa.

6/10 Okay

pascal, brest

Liked: Cleanliness
déçu et nous ne le recommanderons pas.
Les photos sur le site ne sont pas celles de l'appartement loué car il y a en une dixaine. Appartement très bruyant car une simple et très grande porte coulissante séparait un autre appartement donc les odeurs de cigarettes de cuisine et le bruit passaient sous la porte. Pour aller à la piscine il fallait prendre la voiture.

10/10 Excellent

Djavid, München

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Toskana-Traum
Genau wie man sich eine Unterkunft in der Toskana wünscht: geräumige Appartments in Steinhäusern inmitten von Wein- und Olivenhügeln. Dazu ein toller Pool, und das alles auch noch ganz nah zu Siena. Perfekt!

8/10 Good

Merete, Oslo

Liked: Cleanliness, room comfort
Glem bassenget - nyt heller roen og utsikten!
Vi ankom hotellet en fredag formiddag, varme og slitne og veldig klare for hvile ved bassenget. Vi fryktet at det skulle være fullt, noe det slett ikke var. Derimot var det det en stor familie som hadde okkupert hele bassengområdet med håndklær, leker, ting og tang. Vi måtte be de rydde plass til oss. Det ble ikke særlig hvile her på grunn av mye bråk. Badingen uteble da rennen rundt bassenget hadde tiltrukket seg alle veps i hele området. Vi prøvde oss de to neste morningene også, men gav opp. Senger og stoler slang rundt over det hele, det var ingen som ryddet noen gang. Vi omstilte oss og nøt oppholdet og det vakre området ved det hyggelige lille uteområdet som var reservert for vår leilighet. Vi snakker idyll! Dette er et helt fantastisk vakkert sted, som gir deg en god ro i sjelen. Det er en natur man ikke kan se seg mett på. Rommene er store og luftige, greit innredet - men ikke la deg lure til at bildene stemmer for det gjør de IKKE. Sengene er gode og badet er rent. Vi storkoste oss :-)

8/10 Good

Emilie

Disliked: Room comfort
Très bel endroit mais
Tenuta bien située. La proximité de Sienne est appréciable. Endroit calme. Réceptionniste pas très réactive, ne répond pas aux e-mail . Manque d équipement dans les chambres, un étendoir à linge individuel par exemple ou encore un parasol pour la terrasse. Et pas de clim et l été c est vraiment redibitoire car impossible de dormir. Et attention le domaine est très grand donc en fonction de la ou vous séjourner vous n avez acces qu a une piscine et non les deux. Soit la grande soit la petite. Renseignez vous bien.

10/10 Excellent

Kristian, Göteborg

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Fint boende med härlig pool!
Fint och rymligt boende med vinrankor utanför huset. Perfekt för sightseeing runt Siena distriktet. Vi var 4 vuxna och 2 barn som hade två lägenheter om ca 70 m2 vardera. Hade nog kunnat ha en lägenhet om det funnits sängkapacitet för det. Poolen som låg precis vid våran ena lägenhet var fantastiskt fin. Vi hade den i stort sett för oss själva. Det var lite svårt att hitta till stället tyckte vi. Kör till Ponte a Bozzone och sväng av till vänster mellan de två pizzeriorna. Sen direkt vänster förbi en parkeringsplats och kör runt ett bostadsområde som man har på höger sida. Sen tar man vänster och kör upp för en grusväg till Tenutan.

10/10 Excellent

Michal

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

10/10 Excellent

Aline Almeida, Sao paulo/brasil

Liked: Property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Muito relaxante
Dentro de uma vinicula, otimo lugar para relaxar e vista maravilhosa.

8/10 Good

Lilian

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Siena
Quarto espaçoso, limpo num local charmoso e aconchegante.

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Luogo incantato
Una bellissima esperienza fra le colline toscane. Un luogo incantato,assolutamente da visitare.

2/10 Terrible

Val, France

Disliked: Staff & service, room comfort
BOF BOF BOF
Cet établissement est situé au milieu de nulle part,. Les habitations sont plutôt sinistres et vuos renvoient au moyen-âge avec des toilettes dans la douche par exemple. Quant à la piscine, si vous souhaitez en profiter, mieux vaut ne pas être là en même temps que le troupeau d'ados qui vient d'on ne sait où et qui squatte l'après-midi, ce qui rend toute baignade reposante illusoire... Une grande grande déception...