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The Wildings

4.0 star property
Sandy fun near Llandudno Pier and Great Orme Tramway
your current months are January, 2025 and February, 2025.
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February 2025

Photo gallery for The Wildings

Front of property
Beach nearby
Exterior
Junior Quadruple Room
View from room

Reviews

9.4 out of 10

Exceptional

Popular amenities

  • Bar
  • Pet-friendly
  • Housekeeping
  • Free WiFi
  • Restaurant
The price is AU$212
includes taxes & fees
2 Jan - 3 Jan 2025

Explore the area

Map
N Parade, Llandudno, Wales, LL30 2LP
  • Llandudno ski slope
    1 min walk
  • Osborne House
    1 min walk
  • Llandudno Station
    12 min walk
  • Anglesey (VLY)
    57 min drive

Room options

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Standard Double or Twin Room

Standard Double or Twin Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

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Standard Double or Twin Room

Standard Double or Twin Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

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Standard Quadruple Room, Partial Sea View

Standard Quadruple Room, Partial Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 28 sq m
  • Partial sea view
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Double Bed OR 2 Large Single Beds and 1 Double Bed

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Basic Double Room

Basic Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 20 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

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Superior Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Superior Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Rainfall showerhead
Hairdryer
  • 30 sq m
  • Sea view
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Basic Double Room

Basic Double Room

Basic Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 20 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

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Junior Quadruple Room

Junior Quadruple Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
  • 32 sq m
  • Sea view
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed

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Standard Double Room

Standard Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

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Classic Double Room

Classic Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

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Standard Triple Room

Standard Triple Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 Double Bed and 1 Single Bed

View all photos for Classic Double or Twin Room, Partial Sea View

Classic Double or Twin Room, Partial Sea View

Classic Double or Twin Room, Partial Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 25 sq m
  • Partial sea view
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Classic Triple Room, Partial Sea View

Classic Triple Room, Partial Sea View

Classic Triple Room, Partial Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 Queen Bed and 1 Single Bed

View all photos for Junior Quadruple Room

Junior Quadruple Room | View from room

Junior Quadruple Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
  • 32 sq m
  • Sea view
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed OR 2 Large Single Beds and 1 Double Sofa Bed

View all photos for Classic Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Classic Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Classic Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 25 sq m
  • Sea view
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Classic Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Classic Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Classic Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 25 sq m
  • Sea view
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

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Family Quadruple Room

Family Quadruple Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 32 sq m
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 Single Bunk Bed and 1 King Bed

View all photos for Superior Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Superior Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Superior Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Hairdryer
Rainfall showerhead
  • 30 sq m
  • Sea view
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Classic Double Room

Classic Double Room

Classic Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

View all photos for Superior Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Superior Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Superior Double or Twin Room, Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 30 sq m
  • Sea view
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Economy Double Room

Economy Double Room

Economy Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 20 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

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Family Room

Family Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
  • 32 sq m
  • Sleeps 5
  • 1 Single Bed, 1 Single Bunk Bed and 1 Double Bed

View all photos for Basic Double Room

Basic Double Room

Basic Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 20 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

View all photos for Standard Double or Twin Room

Standard Double or Twin Room

Standard Double or Twin Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Standard Double Room, Sea View

Standard Double Room, Sea View

Standard Double Room, Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 25 sq m
  • Sea view
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

View all photos for Economy Double Room

Economy Double Room

Economy Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 20 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

View all photos for Standard Double Room

Standard Double Room

Standard Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Rainfall showerhead
Hairdryer
  • 20 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

View all photos for Economy Double Room

Economy Double Room

Economy Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Hairdryer
  • 20 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

View all photos for Standard Double Room

1 bedroom, individually decorated, individually furnished, desk

Standard Double Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

View all photos for Standard Double Room, Partial Sea View

Standard Double Room, Partial Sea View

Standard Double Room, Partial Sea View

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 25 sq m
  • Partial sea view
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Double Bed

View all photos for Standard Double or Twin Room

Standard Double or Twin Room

Standard Double or Twin Room

Highlights

Individually furnished
Individually decorated
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Portable fan
Separate bedroom
Private bathroom
Rainfall showerhead
  • 25 sq m
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed OR 2 Single Beds

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About the area

Llandudno

At The Wildings you'll be within a short 5-minute stroll of Promenade and Llandudno Pier. Highlights at this beach B&B include free daily breakfast, a restaurant and a bar/lounge. .This pet-friendly bed & breakfast offers free WiFi in public areas, a terrace and a lift. Additionally, you'll find a coffee shop/cafe. Each morning free English breakfast is offered between 7:30 AM and 9:30 AM. Bring your pet along and take advantage of this property's pet-friendly amenities, such as food and water bowls. .Places within a short walk of this 4-property class Llandudno B&B include Great Orme Tramway and Great Orme Country Park is within 20 minutes.
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What's nearby

  • Promenade - 1 min walk
  • Llandudno Pier - 3 min walk
  • Great Orme Tramway - 4 min walk
  • Great Orme Country Park - 17 min walk
  • Venue Cymru - 17 min walk

Getting around

  • Llandudno Station - 12 min walk
  • Liverpool (LPL-John Lennon) - 88 min drive

Restaurants

  • ‪Llandudno Pier Fish & Chips - ‬1 min walk
  • ‪The Palladium - ‬3 min walk
  • ‪The Cottage Loaf - ‬4 min walk
  • ‪The Loaf - ‬3 min walk
  • ‪Happy Valley - ‬5 min walk

About this property

The Wildings

Sandy fun near Llandudno Pier and Great Orme Tramway
There's a restaurant on site, as well as a coffee shop/cafe. You can enjoy a drink at the bar/lounge. Free breakfast is available daily. WiFi is free in public spaces.

The Wildings also features a terrace and a lift.

This 4-star Llandudno bed & breakfast is smoke free.

  • 30 guestrooms or units
  • 3 levels
  • Built in 1950
  • English breakfast (free)
  • Front desk (limited hours)
  • Terrace
  • Lift
  • No smoking on site
  • Bar or lounge
  • Coffee shop
  • Dining venue
The Wildings offers 30 accommodations with complimentary bottles of water and a hairdryer. This individually decorated and furnished accommodation includes desks. Flat-screen televisions are featured in guestrooms.

Guests can surf the web using the complimentary wireless Internet access (speed: 25+ Mbps). Additionally, rooms include free toiletries and portable fans. Housekeeping is offered on a daily basis and an iron/ironing board can be requested.

Languages

English

Property amenities

Internet

  • Available in all rooms: Free WiFi
  • In-room WiFi speed: 25+ Mbps
  • Available in some public areas: Free WiFi

Parking and transport

  • No on-site parking available

Food and drink

  • Free English breakfast available daily 7:30 AM to 9:30 AM
  • A bar/lounge
  • A coffee shop/cafe
  • A restaurant

Conveniences

  • Guidebooks
  • Limited-hour front desk

Guest services

  • Housekeeping (daily)

Outdoors

  • In a nature reserve
  • Terrace

Accessibility

  • If you have requests for specific accessibility needs, please contact the property using the information on the reservation confirmation received after booking.
  • Handrails in stairways
  • Lift
  • Stair-free path to entrance
  • Well-lit path to entrance

Room amenities

Bedroom

  • Bedsheets provided

Bathroom

  • Free toiletries
  • Hair dryer
  • Shampoo
  • Soap
  • Toilet paper
  • Towels provided

Entertainment

  • 30-inch flat-screen TV

Food and drink

  • Electric kettle
  • Free bottled water
  • Tea bags/instant coffee

More

  • Desk
  • Heating
  • Individual decor
  • Individual furnishings
  • Iron/ironing board on request
  • Portable fan

Policies

Check-in

Check-in start time: 3:00 PM; check-in end time: 10:30 PM
Early check-in subject to availability
Early check-in is available for a fee
Minimum check-in age - 18

Check-out

Check-out before 10:30 AM
Late check-out subject to availability
A late check-out fee will be charged

Special check-in instructions

The front desk is open daily from 7:30 AM - 10:30 PM
Guests will receive an email 24 hours before arrival with check-in instructions; front desk staffed during limited hours
This property doesn't offer after-hours check-in

Access methods

Front desk (limited hours)

Pets

  • Pets: GBP 22.50 per pet, per night
  • Only dogs and cats are allowed
  • Maximum 2 pets
  • Pets cannot be left unattended
  • Food and water bowls are available
  • Certain rooms only
  • You can request a pet-friendly room by reaching out to the property at the number on the booking confirmation
    • Service animals are exempt from fees.

Children and extra beds

  • Children are welcome.
  • Rollaway/extra beds are not available.
  • Cots (infant beds) are not available.

Payment types

Important information

Optional extras

The fees and deposits listed below will be charged at the time of service, check-in, or check-out.

  • Pet fee: GBP 22.50 per pet, per night
  • Service animals are exempt from fees
  • Early check-in is available for a fee (subject to availability)
  • Late check-out is available for a fee (subject to availability)

This may not be a comprehensive list. Fees and deposits are subject to change and might not include tax.

You need to know

Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy
Government-issued photo identification and a credit card, debit card or cash deposit may be required at check-in for incidental charges
Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed
This property accepts credit cards, debit cards, mobile payments and cash
Cashless transactions are available
Safety features at this property include a fire extinguisher, a security system and a first aid kit
Charges for extra guests may apply and vary according to property policy.
A cash deposit, credit card or debit card for incidental charges and government-issued photo identification may be required upon check-in.
Special requests are subject to availability at the time of check-in. Special requests can't be guaranteed and may incur additional charges.
    This property is managed by a professional host. The provision of housing is linked to their trade, business or profession. No on-site parking is available. This property accepts Visa, Mastercard, American Express, debit cards, cash and mobile payments. For guests' safety, the property includes a fire extinguisher, a smoke detector, a security system and a first aid kit in all accommodation. Cashless payment methods are available for all transactions.

We should mention

  • Pets are welcome in specific rooms only, which can be requested by contacting the property directly at the number on your booking confirmation (please see the Fees section for related charges).

Property is also known as

The Wildings Llandudno
The Wildings Bed & breakfast
The Wildings Bed & breakfast Llandudno

Frequently asked questions

What is the cancellation policy at The Wildings?

The Wildings offers free cancellation on select room rates. Check out the cancellation policy for more info.

How much does it cost to stay at The Wildings?

As of 26 Dec 2024, prices found for a 1-night stay for 2 adults at The Wildings on 2 Jan 2025 start from AU$212.16, including taxes and fees. This price is based on the lowest nightly price found in the last 24 hours for stays in the next 30 days. Prices are subject to change. Choose your dates for more accurate prices.

Are there any beaches close to The Wildings?

Yep, The Wildings is a short 1-minute walk from Llandudno North Shore Beach.

Does The Wildings serve breakfast?

You bet, complimentary English breakfast is on offer daily between 7:30 AM and 9:30 AM.

Is there a free airport shuttle available at The Wildings?

No, The Wildings does not offer an airport shuttle service.

Is there a bar or restaurant at The Wildings?

Yep, they've got a lounge bar and an onsite restaurant.

What time are check-in & check-out at The Wildings?

Check-in begins at 3:00 PM. Check-out time is 10:30 AM.

Are pets allowed at The Wildings?

Cats and dogs are welcome at The Wildings, with food and water bowls on offer. Just so you know, there's a limit of 2 pets.

The Wildings Reviews

Reviews

9.4

Exceptional

Rating 10 - Excellent. 58 out of 80 reviews" "
Rating 8 - Good. 19 out of 80 reviews" "
Rating 6 - Okay. 3 out of 80 reviews" "
Rating 4 - Poor. 0 out of 80 reviews" "
Rating 2 - Terrible. 0 out of 80 reviews" "

9.6/10

Cleanliness

9.6/10

Staff & service

9.4/10

Amenities

9.2/10

Property conditions & facilities

9.0/10

Eco-friendliness

Reviews

8/10 Good

Margaret

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Excellent hotel
We had great time at this hotel the food was excellent, staff were great rooms comfortable & very clean would definitely recommend
Stayed 5 nights in Sep 2024

8/10 Good

Harjeet

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities
The hotel B&B is perfectly situated for the beach. The room was large with a sea view and an en suite, that was a little tired. The breakfast was delicious and the staff really friendly and helpful. There was some outside noise during the night which is to be expected. Overall, a wonderful stay, that I'd highly recommend
Stayed 1 night in Aug 2024

10/10 Excellent

Andrew

Travelled with partner
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
Absolutely lovely place, the staff couldn’t do enough for us. Great sunshine in the morning on the front, clean tidy what more would you need. Bar and restaurant on premises. Great menu too
Stayed 1 night in Aug 2024

10/10 Excellent

Daniel

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
Amazing one night stay with my daughter. Staff went above and beyond to be helpful and talk to her too. Lovely clean hotel and the food was excellent too
Stayed 1 night in Aug 2024

10/10 Excellent

Gary

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Stayed 1 night in Aug 2024

8/10 Good

Angela J

Stayed 3 nights in Aug 2024

10/10 Excellent

Simon

Travelled with family, Travelled with family and small children
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
Rooms were stunning. Breakfast selection was brilliant. The perfect location for our trip. Best hotel in Llandudno.
Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2024

10/10 Excellent

Steven

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Everyone friendly
Everyone friendly, food very good. We had a goodnights sleep as well. Only down was the sloping ceiling which I caught my head on twice. Overall we enjoyed our stay and would stay again.
Stayed 2 nights in Jul 2024

8/10 Good

Janine

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Well worth the price
Had a lovely night stay with my husband & dog. My first time taking our dog away & they couldn’t have been more accommodating. Great hotel & super reasonable rates! Breakfast was fab x
Stayed 1 night in Jul 2024

8/10 Good

Alexandra

Stayed 1 night in Jul 2024

10/10 Excellent

Tony

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Dog charge too much
Excellent trip spoiled by the extortionate charge for our small cockapoo
Stayed 2 nights in Apr 2024

10/10 Excellent

Tonya

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Best Hotel in Llandudno x
There are not enough stars to give this Hotel and staff, they were wonderful, we were looked after and nothing was too much trouble for them, The whole experience was absolutely fab!!🙂 Will definitely be going back. Thankyou to everyone especially the two guys on reception. Loved it , Big big Thankyou. Xx
Stayed 2 nights in Jul 2024

10/10 Excellent

Catherine

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service
Stayed 1 night in Jul 2024

10/10 Excellent

Elena

Travelled with partner
Liked: Amenities
to the station, otherwise we would have missed our train to cardiff
Stayed 4 nights in Jul 2024

10/10 Excellent

Kim

Stayed 1 night in Jul 2024

10/10 Excellent

GERARD

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities
Stayed 1 night in Jun 2024

10/10 Excellent

Ben

Stayed 1 night in Jun 2024

6/10 Okay

Roger

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service
Disliked: Room comfort
Seaside
Mostly a good experience. The staff were good and keen to make our stay a good one. The hotel room on the top floor not ideal for 2 x 80 year olds even with lifts. Sloping ceilings making getting out of bed in a morning risky.
Stayed 8 nights in May 2024

10/10 Excellent

Colin

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities
Lovely hotel staff excellent will definitely be back
Stayed 1 night in Mar 2024

10/10 Excellent

Leila

Travelled with partner
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
Stayed 2 nights in Mar 2024

10/10 Excellent

Tracy

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Stayed 1 night in Mar 2024

10/10 Excellent

Clare

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
Excellent stay can't fault no thing, even the parking wasn't an issue
Stayed 2 nights in Feb 2024

10/10 Excellent

Susan

Travelled with group
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Great location Friendly staff Amazing breakfast
Stayed 1 night in Feb 2024

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Lovely hotel
Stayed one night for theatre visit. Hotel was very clean and comfortable. Just across the road from the pier. The breakfast which was included was amazing lots of choice and very friendly helpful staff. Theres no parking which it clearly states but that wasnt a problem as theres plenty of car parks and street parking Would definitely stay here again
Stayed 1 night in Jan 2024

10/10 Excellent

Graham

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities
Excellent property on the front, good breakfast & excellent family room
Stayed 1 night in Nov 2023